On Monday, April 1st, at 2pm central time, I was supposed to have had a debate with “Elder” Rawchaa, of The Gathering In Christ Church, regarding the continual observance of the Sabbath.The debate propositions, that were agreed upon, were supposed to have been:
- Sunday is the New Testament day of worship (Fields affirms, Rawchaa denies).
- Saturday is the New Testament day of worship (Rawchaa affirms, Fields denies).
However, agreed upon propositions only work when you follow an agreed upon order of discussion. I thought I had that from the representative of the Gathering In Christ Church that I was in communication with. I Tweeted him the plans for the discussion. After some time he responded saying that he would like to call me and make some changes. I gave him my number and we had a very nice conversation on the phone. I was agreeable to each and every change that he wanted to make, which is represented below in the way I had the course of discussion arranged. So, the course of discussion that you see below is what they requested. “Elder” Rawchaa allowed me to go ahead with my first affirmative as to why I believe that Sunday is the Scriptural day of worship for the New Testament Christian. However, when it was his turn, he spoke for a few minutes and then said he was done and wanted to move on to the question and answer session. When I explained that we had a set order of discussion that was agreed to by both sides, he said he was not in agreement with it (cf. Matt. 5:37), and that was the end of the order of discussion that both sides agreed to.
In hindsight, I should have halted the discussion right then. However, I felt that we could still have a fruitful discussion so I let it continue. Anyone who knows me knows that I am not shy about getting caught up in the heat of the discussion. I admit that I let it go on far too long and in the end there was not a lot of fruitfulness about it. I need to learn from my mistake and not let it happen again.
I have said all of that to explain why you are not seeing the entire three and half hour video posted here. I have clipped out part and left the viewer to go to SpreeCast where he can view the entire three and half hour video if he so chooses. The man in the video is not “Elder” Rawchaa. This is actually the second person that came in, “Elder” Lawya. As always, your comments are most welcome. However, as I have already had to inform one member of The Gathering In Christ Church, I won’t post comments using bad language.
The originally agreed upon order of discussion.
- Fields affirmative: Sunday is the New Testament day of worship (15 min.).
- Rawchaa response (15 min.).
- Rawchaa affirmatieve: Saturday is the New Testament day of worship (15 min.).
- Fields response (15 min.).
- Direct questioning – Up to 6 questions from Fields to Rawchaa
- Direct questioning – Up to 6 questions from Rawchaa to Fields
- Each question must be a short clearly stated question, no long teaching statements in the form of a question.
- These are to be short, clear questions to each other. The respondent will have 2 minutes to respond to each question when the question is asked.
After the third session we will both have a question and answer session where we will answer any questions that have come in from the viewers (not each other). Depending on where we are after the second session, we may or may not add additional sessions to this discussion.
We will be having this discussion live online using SpreeCast. Anyone can watch as a guest, without having to register with SpreeCast. But, to make use of the live chat and submit questions you have to be a registered user. SpreeCast is free so I would encourage everyone interested in this discussion to go ahead and get registered. You can follow my SpreeCast channel here: PreacherNorm on SpreeCast. You can also follow this post and I will embed the live SpreeCast player here shortly before the debate begins.
Here are the charts that I prepared. I only got to use a couple of them though.